From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 1 00:46:58 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10450 for philofractal-list; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:46:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA10040 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:58:42 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-52.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.182]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05431 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:08:05 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990801155043.00820530@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 15:50:43 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: Re[2]: [philofractal] Re[2]: That conundrum! In-Reply-To: <17806.990731@attcanada.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19990731162415.008d1e70@mail.nznet.gen.nz> <3.0.3.32.19990731162415.008d1e70@mail.nznet.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 19:21 31/07/99 -0700, John Wilson wrote: > >MLO> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nzherald99/story.cfm?theStoryID=10815 > >I looked at *tomorrow's* issue of that newspaper for the article, > Don't forget, NZST is UTC _plus_ 1200; there's a dateline 'tween you and me. >which was interesting, but not extensive. > The University would probably have more information, though I haven't looked. >I saw an article there about a very possible cancer cure, lyprinol. > I wouldn't get too worked up about that unless and until clinical trials bear out the lab results. >What sort of paper is that, anyway? > Premier national daily. In Auckland it holds about the same position the Times has in London. >Is the NZ Herald a reliable news source, or are >cancer cures a regular feature? :-) > More reliable than TVNZ (or CNN, for that matter) :-D Morgan L. Owens "Caffeine was discovered to kill cancer cells. But the required dosages killed everything else as well." _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 1 00:46:58 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10457 for philofractal-list; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:47:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10088; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:04:07 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveh96.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.69.38]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14256; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990801000701.331f9f10@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 01-08-99 (Midget in a Petri-Dish) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 01, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: The original coloring of today's image gave the effect of a dish of thriving bacterial colonies, so I named the picture "Midget in a Petri Dish". Later I adjusted the colors to a less bacterial palette, but I kept the name. The formula adds a lot of Z^(-63) to Z, and draws a critical plane through the resulting parameter space. The parameter file calculates in a few minutes. The image file has been posted to: and to: The weather today was hot and humid, with a temperature of 99F (37C) making a fractal search in air-cooled surroundings the preferred activity. The experts tell us that we've got one more hot day before it turns cooler, but even they tell us that no rain is in sight. Knowing the reliability of the experts, I'll believe the cool-down when I see it. No one could be more frustrated about the hot dry weather than the neighbors three doors away, who just had an outdoor swimmimg pool delivered, and found that due to the water shortage, which is rapidly becoming a media event, they were forbidden to fill it. I've got much to say about alien intelligence and other things alien, but I haven't yet found the energy to put it to writing. Tomorrow could be the day, however, so check then to see. Until that time, take care, and a fractal is a wonderful thing. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= MidgetInPetri-dish { ; t=0:05:23.02 on a p233, 640x480 ; Version 1961 Patchlevel 40 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.10620882781101850/0/1.870651e+011 params=35/-63/1/1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=184 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000CDRCKYCKcDZjDfqDmwkVPo_Yscf<6>8jS<6>N02DcQ\ K4D<5>mlfzzzvzo<7>34l<3>ORR_eDjz0tv5zj9n`9gS9aJ9Ywl\ <2>Nnw<7>NuC<3>g1F<2>8eT<3>wtgrbczL`zLbzLd<2>zMcRNb\ <2>CNb<2>ARe9Se6bl8Tf<9>2dm7Z6DLo<4>3bmH5n<4>4_mf1lq\ JY<11>6dlcEN<13>4dlDhQ<5>4egKejzeM<4>zeZPea<3>6ekAfa\ ZfTOf_DefIaK<9>SehTekUel<2>XfkYgkZgl<5>djmejvfksgkph\ l7<10>smjtm9um4<3>ymGzmJzmMzmP<7>zmkzmg<10>zmmzmA<7>\ zmizm`zmgzm3<7>zmh } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ MidgetInPetri-dish { ; t=0:05:23.02 on a p233, 640x480 ; Version 1961 Patchlevel 40 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.10620882781101850/0/1.870651e+011 params=35/-63/1/1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=184 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000CDRCKYCKcDZjDfqDmwkVPo_Yscf<6>8jS<6>N02DcQ\ K4D<5>mlfzzzvzo<7>34l<3>ORR_eDjz0tv5zj9n`9gS9aJ9Ywl\ <2>Nnw<7>NuC<3>g1F<2>8eT<3>wtgrbczL`zLbzLd<2>zMcRNb\ <2>CNb<2>ARe9Se6bl8Tf<9>2dm7Z6DLo<4>3bmH5n<4>4_mf1lq\ JY<11>6dlcEN<13>4dlDhQ<5>4egKejzeM<4>zeZPea<3>6ekAfa\ ZfTOf_DefIaK<9>SehTekUel<2>XfkYgkZgl<5>djmejvfksgkph\ l7<10>smjtm9um4<3>ymGzmJzmMzmP<7>zmkzmg<10>zmmzmA<7>\ zmizm`zmgzm3<7>zmh } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Mon Aug 2 01:37:34 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA22983 for philofractal-list; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:37:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (smtp4.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA22632; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:58:21 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveh02.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.68.2]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA14288; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990802010054.329fd3ae@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 02-08-99 (Mandelbrot Eruption) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 02, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's rather unusual image reminds me of a volcanic eruption on an airless planet such as Io, where the ejected material erupts from the volcanic vents and rises in plumes perhaps 50 miles above the surface before settling back in graceful, parabolic arcs. But in today's case, instead of the usual volcanic ejecta, we have fractal ejecta, and sitting at the top of the column we have a baby minibrot. I had little trouble choosing the name "Mandelbrot Eruption". If the parameters look familiar, it's because today's fractal is an outzoom from the "petridsh" image of yesterday. Yesterday's image is located in the "negative tail" area of today's picture. (In today's picture the tail is pointing down.) There are even more interesting midgets in other areas of today's Minibrot, and one or two of them might appear in a soon-to-come FOTD. The three minutes it takes to render the parameter file can seem like an hour. Relief is available on Usenet at: and on the W.W.Web at: where the complete image file has been posted in JPEG format. The all-important weather was hot today, with a temperature of 95F (35C) that made fractal hunting the preferred activity. I've got much to say about aliens and philosophy in general, but I just can't seem to engage the 'on' switch and get it down in writing. But I'll try again tomorrow. Right now, it's time to attend to the fractal cats and see what's on the TV. Until next time, take care, and the FOTD is still in its infancy. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= MandelbrotEruption { ; t=0:03:47.28 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.0635592/1.52656e-016/13.28295/1/90 params=35/-63/1/1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=2 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000NJRCJRCKR<2>ILRKMRMKQ<8>cSUeTUfUVgVV<6>n_Y\ o`YoaZobZ<14>jodjodipehpe<23>PwjPwjQvk<27>gVrhUrjTq\ <41>EawEawDaxCay<3>9bx8bx5by<42>mLjnLjnLk<3>rJnrJns\ Km<48>wqB } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ MandelbrotEruption { ; t=0:03:47.28 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=-0.0635592/1.52656e-016/13.28295/1/90 params=35/-63/1/1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=2 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000NJRCJRCKR<2>ILRKMRMKQ<8>cSUeTUfUVgVV<6>n_Y\ o`YoaZobZ<14>jodjodipehpe<23>PwjPwjQvk<27>gVrhUrjTq\ <41>EawEawDaxCay<3>9bx8bx5by<42>mLjnLjnLk<3>rJnrJns\ Km<48>wqB } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 3 01:37:25 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03547 for philofractal-list; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:37:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03019; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:39:41 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2ivehl1.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.70.161]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA20133; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990803004150.32b7992a@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 03-08-99 (Mandeloid Commas) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 03, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today's fractal is filled with punctuation marks -- commas to be exact -- which explains why I named the picture "Mandeloid Commas". The parent fractal appeared when I entered today's first four parameters at random, then fine tuned the remaining two. It's one of those skeletal fractals that often appear when two powers of Z are added together. I left the inside set to 0 to emphasize the skeletal nature of the image. When today's GIF file was JPEG'd at 95 percent accuracy, the size of the file almost tripled to 180KB. As a result, the GIF file is the one that has been posted to: and to Paul Lee's web site at: Well, today I saw the first water conservation notice in a rest room. It was a verse with absolutely no class: If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, flush it down. And believe it or not, they're repeating the same unclassy message on the local TV stations. My favorite conservation message is: "Save water; shower with a friend". That message has really good conservation potential if followed faithfully, but I won't speculate about what the possible population increase might do to future conservation efforts. The weather today was less hot but very sunny and very dry. The 90F (32C) temperature was perfect for seeking fractals in air- conditioned comfort Having had such an unclassy day, I once again failed to find the philosophy on-switch, but I'll try again tomorrow. And even if I fail at my philosophy, I'll have a fractal. Check then to see how great the fractal will be. Until tomorrow, take care, and it might be time to import some Hopi rain dancers. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Mandeloid_Commas { ; t=0:05:57.67 on a p233, 640x480 ; Version 1961 Patchlevel 40 reset=1961 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.1638458239156838/+0.03623479757997685/\ 872469.2/1/155 params=-3/0.3/0.3/-3/-2.7/-60 float=y maxiter=12000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=102 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000aPq<2>yAo<4>ZmAD`Z<6>WgT<6>1Mw<3>1zP<2>sZL\ 5mVUn2<5>zRI_a`Als<7>rgT<6>cG5aD2YW6Vn9cgnnm`yrO<3>1\ za<5>p4_Zy6<2>xUF<5>9GPYJ`vMl<7>7NTDFL<3>ZbY<2>denzh\ Ygfx<2>panr`zGLfJEnM7u<3>S1n<5>3AH<3>HCO<5>Z2a<2>E4f\ 8FS3PD7QPBRzFSlITxOdaTpFLUBD88<7>g6yhUshpn1yN<2>40E\ <6>dba<5>axWFop<3>NrtOrtSsj<5>numYumHunMvnRvo<7>wwrf\ ws<4>kwulwvnwvpww<4>zwy`wyCwyTwzhwz<4>0wz2wz3wz<4>_w\ z<5>iwz<7>Qwz<8>twz<4>Gwz<2>Bwz } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Mandeloid_Commas { ; t=0:05:57.67 on a p233, 640x480 ; Version 1961 Patchlevel 40 reset=1961 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=t center-mag=-0.1638458239156838/+0.03623479757997685/\ 872469.2/1/155 params=-3/0.3/0.3/-3/-2.7/-60 float=y maxiter=12000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=102 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000aPq<2>yAo<4>ZmAD`Z<6>WgT<6>1Mw<3>1zP<2>sZL\ 5mVUn2<5>zRI_a`Als<7>rgT<6>cG5aD2YW6Vn9cgnnm`yrO<3>1\ za<5>p4_Zy6<2>xUF<5>9GPYJ`vMl<7>7NTDFL<3>ZbY<2>denzh\ Ygfx<2>panr`zGLfJEnM7u<3>S1n<5>3AH<3>HCO<5>Z2a<2>E4f\ 8FS3PD7QPBRzFSlITxOdaTpFLUBD88<7>g6yhUshpn1yN<2>40E\ <6>dba<5>axWFop<3>NrtOrtSsj<5>numYumHunMvnRvo<7>wwrf\ ws<4>kwulwvnwvpww<4>zwy`wyCwyTwzhwz<4>0wz2wz3wz<4>_w\ z<5>iwz<7>Qwz<8>twz<4>Gwz<2>Bwz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 3 08:37:08 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06382 for philofractal-list; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:37:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA06062 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:49:45 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-37.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.167]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA18696 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:58:24 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990803234613.00859250@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 23:46:13 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] FOTD 03-08-99 (Mandeloid Commas) (c) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19990803004150.32b7992a@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 00:39 03/08/99 -0400, Jim Muth wrote: > >Well, today I saw the first water conservation notice in a rest >room. It was a verse with absolutely no class: > > If it's yellow, let it mellow. > If it's brown, flush it down. > >And believe it or not, they're repeating the same unclassy >message on the local TV stations. > Oh dear. So now it's made it to Baltimore, has it? A few years back Auckland had a water shortage, and the same notice was being used. And yes, in the broadcast media as well. Morgan L. Owens "The water crisis. Not to be confused with the power crisis or the transport crisis or the..." _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Wed Aug 4 02:37:16 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA17125 for philofractal-list; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:37:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16822; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:59:17 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveil6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.74.166]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14536; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990804012538.33177bf2@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 04, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: I just love the MandelbrotMix4 formula. To prove my point, here is a fractal midget that saved the day by turning up after only 5 minutes of browsing. A quick fractal was needed because an unexpected rush job came in this morning, leaving no time for my usual fractal diversion. To find a quick fractal, I brought up the M-Mix4 formula, entered some whimsical parameters at random, and leaned back to see what would happen. Today's picture is what happened. I named it "Deep Blue Minibrot" when I noticed the barely visible, (on my monitor), blue square surrounding the tiny midget at the center, almost like a mystic aura. The blue aura of today's picture reminds me of the so-called human aura, which psychics claim to see surrounding the human body, and which supposedly rivals fractals in the splendor of its colors. I've never seen an aura, but at the same time I doubt if so many psychics through the ages have either been lying or hallucinating. Yes, I know that no such thing as a human aura is supposed to exist. It's unscientific and undemonstrated, and those who claim to see it are thought to be deluded or charlatans, or some other un-nice thing. Still, rumors of the aura will not go away, even in this age of scientific enlightenment. If I had more time, I'd say a lot more, but I have no more time, so I must remind my impatient readers that they may pick up the image file of today's fractal from: or from: even faster than the parameter file renders. The weather today was the same as yesterday -- hot and dry, with a temperature of 90F (32C), which of course was perfect for hunting fractals. I'll return in 24 hours with another fractal, another discussion, and far more time. Until then, take care, and listen to the crickets. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Deep_Blue_Minibrot { ; t=0:02:49.94 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=t center-mag=-0.185897237238359/-0.09730986076735702\ /4.593295e+007/1/-162.5 params=3/1.5/0.75/0.375/0/0 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=79 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000781741854967<2>C9IDAMEBRFCVGD_K9OO27<6>H\ ADHBDIFCJKCKPCLQBMXBNaBOeBOe9<3>KRMJNPIKSHHV<4>C4i\ C2lD5j<13>GjP<12>oMYqLYrPX<10>ruVuTK<2>xNK<3>zqE\ <3>n3y<2>tQk2PF<2>F2uHGWJU7<4>w3j<7>jtUkJH<3>FB9\ <3>7lk<5>ggDmg8rkNvoazrp<4>y9t<6>1Gy<6>Zqq<3>bMx\ <7>CRt<3>EW_NP9<5>qcH<3>G5j<7>ViA<2>vlmumstnx<7>\ ZvT<2>Hw8gw9<4>HwB<5>sws<3>1w1Cwc<4>FwT<4>uw2<3>\ `wt<6>4w_<2>3wj7w5<6>7w2 } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Deep_Blue_Minibrot { ; t=0:02:49.94 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=t center-mag=-0.185897237238359/-0.09730986076735702\ /4.593295e+007/1/-162.5 params=3/1.5/0.75/0.375/0/0 float=y maxiter=1200 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=79 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000781741854967<2>C9IDAMEBRFCVGD_K9OO27<6>H\ ADHBDIFCJKCKPCLQBMXBNaBOeBOe9<3>KRMJNPIKSHHV<4>C4i\ C2lD5j<13>GjP<12>oMYqLYrPX<10>ruVuTK<2>xNK<3>zqE\ <3>n3y<2>tQk2PF<2>F2uHGWJU7<4>w3j<7>jtUkJH<3>FB9\ <3>7lk<5>ggDmg8rkNvoazrp<4>y9t<6>1Gy<6>Zqq<3>bMx\ <7>CRt<3>EW_NP9<5>qcH<3>G5j<7>ViA<2>vlmumstnx<7>\ ZvT<2>Hw8gw9<4>HwB<5>sws<3>1w1Cwc<4>FwT<4>uw2<3>\ `wt<6>4w_<2>3wj7w5<6>7w2 } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Thu Aug 5 01:37:34 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA30075 for philofractal-list; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:37:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29660; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:45:30 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2ivegoh.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.67.17]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27445; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990805004719.317f1294@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 05-08-99 (Gossamer Membrane) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 05, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today was another busy one here at Fractal Central, and as a result I had to scrimp on my fractal search. Not wanting to call again on the overworked M-Mix4 formula, I went to my slices.frm file and brought up the OblateMiN formula. This formula draws the Oblate slices, imag(c)-real(z), of a Julibrot of any order of (-Z). For today's fractal, I chose the (-Z)^1.5+C figure. I named the picture "Gossamer Membrane" after the thin sheet of chaos that resembles a transparent membrane stretched across the frame. The straight-edged layer at the bottom of the scene is the edge of one of those bridges that fill the odd planes as they span the Julibrot. The attached parameter file is just slow enough to make a download worth the effort. The JPEG image file can be found at: and at: The weather today was sunny, hot and dry, with a temperature of 90F (32C) that made fractal hunting the activity of choice. It's too bad that I found so little time to search, but I've got to give priority to work that pays. Another casualty of the rush was my planned discussion of the human aura, (not that I had much to say about the subject). I'll try again tomorrow, but since I expect another busy day, I'm making no promises. Until then, take care, and unless I'm mistaken, exobiology is the only field of scientific investigation that has yet to locate the object it has been investigating. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== OblateMiN {; Jim Muth b=p1, z=real(pixel)+p2, c=flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=(-z)^(b)+c, |z| <= 16 } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Gossamer_Membrane { ; t=0:05:13.57 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm formulaname=OblateMiN passes=t center-mag=0.686584/0.474782/5.464481/3.1646/0/-26.547 params=1.5/0/0/0/0.63/0 float=y maxiter=2000 bailout=16 inside=0 logmap=20 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000ws4ws4<10>aXD_VEXTEUQF<5>CEKACK9DL<15>5Q_5R\ `4Qh5R`2RR<12>iZv<17>y6P<5>cgLy5V`mL<17>vBW<5>SQ8PQ0\ <11>Aee9fi9fo<14>3gH<12>SlZUl_Un_<19>aNoaMp`Jo<18>mgv\ <11>odo<13>AOu4Ov<14>nCpv9u<6>UUPSYM<7>EPECOD9LABND } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Gossamer_Membrane { ; t=0:05:13.57 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=slices.frm formulaname=OblateMiN passes=t center-mag=0.686584/0.474782/5.464481/3.1646/0/-26.547 params=1.5/0/0/0/0.63/0 float=y maxiter=2000 bailout=16 inside=0 logmap=20 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000ws4ws4<10>aXD_VEXTEUQF<5>CEKACK9DL<15>5Q_5R\ `4Qh5R`2RR<12>iZv<17>y6P<5>cgLy5V`mL<17>vBW<5>SQ8PQ0\ <11>Aee9fi9fo<14>3gH<12>SlZUl_Un_<19>aNoaMp`Jo<18>mgv\ <11>odo<13>AOu4Ov<14>nCpv9u<6>UUPSYM<7>EPECOD9LABND } frm:OblateMiN {; Jim Muth b=p1, z=real(pixel)+p2, c=flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=(-z)^(b)+c, |z| <= 16 } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Thu Aug 5 20:37:23 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA07569 for philofractal-list; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:37:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07506; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:32:09 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2ivei3l.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.72.117]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA24394; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990805203034.11afe290@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 06-08-99 (A Fractal Reject) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 06, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: For every fractal I create that rises to the lofty status of FOTD, there are at least ten images that are born, and then die almost at once. Today's fractal is one that appeared doomed to rejection, and was on its way to the trash can, when I looked again and said, "let's give this one a second chance." I didn't have much time to devote to the coloring, so I found an adequate palette and jazzed it up in a graphics program. The result can be seen by going to: or to: and downloading the JPEG file from there. Or it can be seen by running the attached parameter file and waiting the few minutes it takes for the image to render. I named the picture "Fractal Reject" because that's what it is. The parameters are totally whimsical, as are so many of the parameters I enter into the M-Mix4 formula. The surprise is that a fractal actually results when a small portion of Z^10 is added to a lot of Z^0.1. But the mixture does make a fractal, and today's picture is the proof. The weather today here at Fractal Central was hot and dry. The temperature of 92F 33C was perfect for seeking fractals as well as for the fractal cats, who spent the afternoon stretched out on the shady porch, watching for strange cats who might intrude into their territory. According to the media, the drought is growing ever worse, though IMO, it's not quite as bad as the past two years, when even the weeds were dying. (My weeds are certainly not dying.) But regardless, the water restrictions have gone into effect. For any who have nothing better to do and might be curious, those restrictions can be found at: And now, the best thing for me to do is close down the fractal shoppe, gather up the fractal cats, and call it an evening. I realize that my gems of philosophy, wisdom and enlightenment about the human aura made no appearance today, but tomorrow is another day, and hope springs eternal, so check then to see what happens. And yes, I realize that one person's enlightenment is another person's balderdash. Until tomorrow, take care, and fractals are wonderful things . . . if they are things . . . Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= A_Fractal_Reject { ; t=0:06:20.20 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.1108289742547393/+0.00066189533989878/\ 1.723293e+009/1/-145 params=0.1/10/10/0.1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=99 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=0000F`0H`0Hb0Id0Mf0Rg0Vi0_m<2>0mr<8>0Ib0F`0C_\ 09Y06W02WF9TVDRgIPvNNzTMz`KzfTzk_zpgzxnzzvzvpzpmzkiz\ dfz_bzV_yNWyITxDPx7Mv2Iv0Fv0Cm07d04Y00P00<2>20000000\ 00700NI0db4vx7zz6zz6pz6fy4Wt4Mm4Cg22b20Y20T40T70V92V\ A9WDFWFKYHRYKY_Md_Nk`Rr`TybVzb_z`bz`fz_iz_mzYpzYtzWy\ zWzzVzzVzzTzzTzzRzzRzzPzzPzzPtzPnzNgzNbzNWzNPzMKzMDz\ M9zM2zK0zK0zK0zK0vM2mN9dPHWRNNTWFVb7Wk0Yr0Y0fKCfKYIK\ bHMfFMiDNnCNrANv9Py7Pz6Pz4Rz2Rz0Rz2Pz4Nz4Mz6Mz7Kz7Iz\ 9IyAHxAFvCDtDDrDCpFAnFApDDrDHrCKtCMtAPvATv9Vx9Yy9`y7\ bz7fz6iz6kz4nz4rz4tx9nrDkmIgfMd`R`WWWP_TKdPFiM9mI4rD\ 0xA0z70z40z00z00z90zK0zW2zg7ztDzzIzzTib`P0YDIV4_R0rP\ 0zN0zN0yM0tM6nMAiKHdKM_KRVIWPI`KIfHK`DMYANT7NP4PK0RH\ 0TC0T90RD0PH0NK0MP0KT0IW0H`0Fd0Dg0Cm0Ap09t0<2>Md0<2>\ _PDdKIgFNmATr6Yv0bz0g<2>z0xz0zz0rz0kz6bzDWzNPzYHzgAz\ p4zz00zz0zz } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ A_Fractal_Reject { ; t=0:06:20.20 on p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=critical.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip passes=1 center-mag=-0.1108289742547393/+0.00066189533989878/\ 1.723293e+009/1/-145 params=0.1/10/10/0.1/0/0 float=y maxiter=6000 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=99 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=0000F`0H`0Hb0Id0Mf0Rg0Vi0_m<2>0mr<8>0Ib0F`0C_\ 09Y06W02WF9TVDRgIPvNNzTMz`KzfTzk_zpgzxnzzvzvpzpmzkiz\ dfz_bzV_yNWyITxDPx7Mv2Iv0Fv0Cm07d04Y00P00<2>20000000\ 00700NI0db4vx7zz6zz6pz6fy4Wt4Mm4Cg22b20Y20T40T70V92V\ A9WDFWFKYHRYKY_Md_Nk`Rr`TybVzb_z`bz`fz_iz_mzYpzYtzWy\ zWzzVzzVzzTzzTzzRzzRzzPzzPzzPtzPnzNgzNbzNWzNPzMKzMDz\ M9zM2zK0zK0zK0zK0vM2mN9dPHWRNNTWFVb7Wk0Yr0Y0fKCfKYIK\ bHMfFMiDNnCNrANv9Py7Pz6Pz4Rz2Rz0Rz2Pz4Nz4Mz6Mz7Kz7Iz\ 9IyAHxAFvCDtDDrDCpFAnFApDDrDHrCKtCMtAPvATv9Vx9Yy9`y7\ bz7fz6iz6kz4nz4rz4tx9nrDkmIgfMd`R`WWWP_TKdPFiM9mI4rD\ 0xA0z70z40z00z00z90zK0zW2zg7ztDzzIzzTib`P0YDIV4_R0rP\ 0zN0zN0yM0tM6nMAiKHdKM_KRVIWPI`KIfHK`DMYANT7NP4PK0RH\ 0TC0T90RD0PH0NK0MP0KT0IW0H`0Fd0Dg0Cm0Ap09t0<2>Md0<2>\ _PDdKIgFNmATr6Yv0bz0g<2>z0xz0zz0rz0kz6bzDWzNPzYHzgAz\ p4zz00zz0zz } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sat Aug 7 00:37:43 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA20842 for philofractal-list; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:37:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20833; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:36:34 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveh73.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.68.227]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29805; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990807003753.3367fce8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 07-08-99 (Deep Blue-Two) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 07, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Due to big production problems today with a job that came off the press looking nothing at all like it was supposed to, I had no chance to find a new fractal that would both amaze and inspire. So I dredged up an old fractal that I had found on a deep dive into the Mandelbrot set. The midget is at least worth a look. I named it "Deep Blue-Two" because it is the second fractal within a week to earn that name. This little midget is way out on the northwest filament of the period-2 bud that is centered at -1. Since it is well into the arbitrary precision range, it is a slow image to calculate from the parameter file. But as always, salvation is at hand in the form of the file of the completed image, which has been posted in JPEG format to: and also to: The weather today was hot and dry. The temperature of 90F (32C) was perfect for fractals, if not for an argument at the print shop. And now I'm going to feed the fractal cats, Thomas and Tippy, and relax watching a junky old 1950's sci-fi thriller. Until tomorrow, when there is at least a chance of positive philosophy, take care, and hope for the best. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Deep_Blue-Two { ; t=0:34:39.33 on a p233, 640x480 reset=1961 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-1.2963551381730360303533326407891453351\ 80420092/0.4418516057351981110197899025218176795382\ 451352/3.017523e+040/1/-45 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=2500 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=291 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=00050J<4>50L60M50M<2>52N43N54N<28>AjkAkkCli\ <36>ym6zm5yn7<39>YsmXsnYvp<40>R7k<36>NdIVeL<3>ZiA\ <2>alCbmCcmDcmD<15>cmMcmMcmL<16>cmDcmH<4>cmJ } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sat Aug 7 02:37:15 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA21820 for philofractal-list; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:37:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [204.50.152.131]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA21602 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 01:01:27 -0500 Received: from default (98CD9497.ipt.aol.com [152.205.148.151]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA57568 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 02:08:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nleseul@zurich.crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <002e01bee099$ac5dd040$9794cd98@default> From: "Nature Leseul" To: Subject: Re: [philofractal] FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) (c) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:56:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com <> I picked up a book on auras from Books-A-Million once and paged through it enough to read the first few pages on the technique for "seeing" auras. It's fairly simple; you have the subject stand in front of a white surface, stare at the subject for several seconds, and then shift your focus to the white surface. You should see a sort of yellowish-grayish outline of the subject slightly behind him/her. It works with humans. It also works with inanimate objects. I've never heard that inanimate objects have auras. Personally, I suspect that it's more something in the eye, along the lines of the "spots" that one sees after looking at the sun or any bright light. Although there is one thing I'd like to see an explanation for along the subject of auras. I think it's been fairly well documented that all life-forms have an electromagnetic field surrounding them. In a video I saw in my Biology class once ("The Hidden World" or "The Invisible World" or some such - had visible images of various kinds of invisible energy such as infrared, ultraviolet, and x-rays) that showed an image of a standard human's hands with the electromagnetic field shown in blue light. (Resembled the pattern of iron dust around a mangnet, sort of.) It then showed the same sort of image with the hands of a man in a deep state of meditation. The field was hugely amplified to about 2 or 3 times the intensity of the normal human. !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i! Nature Leseul i!i! i!i! "I wil play you some Mozart, if you like, which wil onlyi!i! i!i! make you weep, but my Don Juan, Christine, burns, i!i! i!i! and yet he is not struck by fire from Heaven... You i!i! i!i! see, Christine, there is some music that is so terriblei!i! i!i! that it consumes all who approach it." i!i! !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sat Aug 7 13:37:25 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25651 for philofractal-list; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:37:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25357 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:02:17 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-58.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.188]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22295 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:09:34 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990807222713.008564d0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 22:27:13 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) (c) In-Reply-To: <002e01bee099$ac5dd040$9794cd98@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 00:56 07/08/1999 -0500, Nature Leseul wrote: > > I picked up a book on auras from Books-A-Million once and paged through it >enough to read the first few pages on the technique for "seeing" auras. It's >fairly simple; you have the subject stand in front of a white surface, stare >at the subject for several seconds, and then shift your focus to the white >surface. You should see a sort of yellowish-grayish outline of the subject >slightly behind him/her. > > It works with humans. It also works with inanimate objects. I've never >heard that inanimate objects have auras. Personally, I suspect that it's >more something in the eye, along the lines of the "spots" that one sees >after looking at the sun or any bright light. > What happens is that the R, G & B cone cells in your retinas get fatigued looking at the same colour for a long period (the reaction of a cone cell to light involves the reconfiguration of a certain molecule, which then has to revert back to its "receptive" state). So when you then flick your gaze over to a white surface, fatigued red cone cells (for example) fail to respond as strongly as they should. The net result is that you end up seeing the complementary colour of what you were looking at (red/green, blue/orange, etc.). And the complementary colour of pinkish-brownish skin tones is (as any look at a negative photograph would show) sort of a greyish-green. This is why operating theatres often have a green colour scheme - so that surgeons don't have to put up with ugly afterimages every time they look up from their work. On the other hand, I note that humans are perfectly capable of seeing into the ultraviolet, if only the lenses of their eyes weren't opaque in that band. Before prosthetic lenses came into common use, cataract patients who have had them removed were capable of seeing the UV colour of their surroundings. (They also needed really strong spectacles.) I know of an astronomer who was much valued because he could line up UV spectra by hand, without the need for special a special viewer. I wonder if there may not be some other perceptual capabilities that some people might have over those that don't. If they do, of course, it's quite clear that they're practically useless. Morgan L. Owens "Oh, no, I've gone crosseyed." _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sat Aug 7 19:37:11 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA28566 for philofractal-list; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:37:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from mailhost2.attcanada.net (mailhost2.attcanada.net [206.191.82.43]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28285 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:12:29 -0500 Received: from d122-xv102h2-vanc-pdi.attcanada.net ([142.194.58.122]) by mailhost2.attcanada.net (InterMail v03.02.07.03 118-128) with ESMTP id <19990807230119.FFI15991@d122-xv102h2-vanc-pdi.attcanada.net> for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:01:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:10:34 -0700 From: John Wilson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.34a) S/N 78C6BBA8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18674.990807@attcanada.net> To: philofractal@icd.com Subject: [philofractal] Re[2]: FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) In-reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990807222713.008564d0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> References: <3.0.3.32.19990807222713.008564d0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com MLO> At 00:56 07/08/1999 -0500, Nature Leseul wrote: >> It works with humans. It also works with inanimate objects. I've never >>heard that inanimate objects have auras. Personally, I suspect that it's >>more something in the eye, along the lines of the "spots" that one sees >>after looking at the sun or any bright light. >> MLO> What happens is that the R, G & B cone cells in your retinas get fatigued MLO> looking at the same colour for a long period.... MLO> This is why operating theatres often have a green colour scheme - so that MLO> surgeons don't have to put up with ugly afterimages every time they look up MLO> from their work. ... Now *that's* the sort of answer, I like to see! Factual and logical. Maybe there's hope yet for Philofractal. :-) MLO> I know of an MLO> astronomer who was much valued because he could line up UV spectra by hand, MLO> without the need for special a special viewer. MLO> I wonder if there may not be some other perceptual capabilities that some MLO> people might have over those that don't. If they do, of course, it's quite MLO> clear that they're practically useless. I'm sure that the distribution of viewable spectra for different folk follows the good old bell curve, but as for *other* perceptual capabilities; well where're the sensors? Why imagine others, when the ones we have lead us astray so frequently? Aura, forsooth!!! One good way of seeing them is to swim for a while in an over-chlorinated pool, then look at any brightly-lit light colored object. Nice rainbow-colored auras round that sweetie in the bikini! Come to think of it, that thought was probably due to another chemical flushed into in the bloodstream, as are most fantasies. John W. mailto:johnw1@attcanada.net _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sat Aug 7 20:37:08 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA29097 for philofractal-list; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:37:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from dot.crosswinds.net (dot.crosswinds.net [204.50.152.131]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA28762 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:02:32 -0500 Received: from default (ABD77AB8.ipt.aol.com [171.215.122.184]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA86430 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 20:08:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nleseul@zurich.crosswinds.net) Message-ID: <000501bee130$a9606820$b87ad7ab@default> From: "Nature Leseul" To: Subject: Re: [philofractal] Re[2]: FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:57:36 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com <<... Now *that's* the sort of answer, I like to see! Factual and logical. Maybe there's hope yet for Philofractal. :-)>> Hey, now, nonfactual and illogical answers have their place too. :-P !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i! Nature Leseul i!i! i!i! "I wil play you some Mozart, if you like, which wil onlyi!i! i!i! make you weep, but my Don Juan, Christine, burns, i!i! i!i! and yet he is not struck by fire from Heaven... You i!i! i!i! see, Christine, there is some music that is so terriblei!i! i!i! that it consumes all who approach it." i!i! !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 01:37:31 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA31300 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:37:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA31037; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 23:47:37 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2ivehcf.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.69.143]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA29040; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990808004835.3297518a@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 08-08-99 (Blossoming Midget) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 08, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: Today, I'll keep it short. This is because I'm still cranky, and don't much feel like writing. When Z^3 and Z^(-32) are mixed, the result is today's fractal, which I named "Blossoming Midget" when I got the impression of a flower in bloom. It's an interesting little midget, which lies in the East Valley area of its parent fractal. The picture of the midget draws in only a few minutes from the parameter file. And as always, the JPEG file of the image has been posted to: and to: The weather today was hot and dry, the temperature of 88F (31C) being great for fractals. The experts have forecast rain for tomorrow. I'll believe it when I see it. And now it's time to settle down for an evening of junky TV. If I survive, which is highly likely, I'll return tomorrow around this same time with another fractal. There's a good chance that I'll return before then on the philofractal list with some deep thoughts about the mysterious human aura. With such sensible people around, there is indeed hope for that much beleaguered list. Take care, and good luck in whatever you endeavor. 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Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] Re[2]: FOTD 04-08-99 (Deep Blue Minibrot) In-Reply-To: <18674.990807@attcanada.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19990807222713.008564d0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> <3.0.3.32.19990807222713.008564d0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 16:10 07/08/1999 -0700, you wrote: >MLO> At 00:56 07/08/1999 -0500, Nature Leseul wrote: > >>> It works with humans. It also works with inanimate objects. I've never >>>heard that inanimate objects have auras. Personally, I suspect that it's >>>more something in the eye, along the lines of the "spots" that one sees >>>after looking at the sun or any bright light. >>> >MLO> What happens is that the R, G & B cone cells in your retinas get fatigued >MLO> looking at the same colour for a long period.... > >MLO> This is why operating theatres often have a green colour scheme - so that >MLO> surgeons don't have to put up with ugly afterimages every time they look up >MLO> from their work. > >... Now *that's* the sort of answer, I like to see! Factual and >logical. Maybe there's hope yet for Philofractal. :-) > >MLO> I know of an >MLO> astronomer who was much valued because he could line up UV spectra by hand, >MLO> without the need for special a special viewer. > >MLO> I wonder if there may not be some other perceptual capabilities that some >MLO> people might have over those that don't. If they do, of course, it's quite >MLO> clear that they're practically useless. > >I'm sure that the distribution of viewable spectra for different >folk follows the good old bell curve, but as for *other* >perceptual capabilities; well where're the sensors? > Like the ability to see ultraviolet, blocked by existing sensory apparatus? Maybe we should experiment along these lines - self-mutilation, anyone? :) An interesting not(e) about viewable spectra is the case of the red cone cell (its strongest response wavelength is actually more yellow than red). There are in fact two genetic variants of the cell, each responding strongest to a slight but noticeably different wavelength. One of the genes is 50% more common than the other. The thing is, the gene responsible lies on the X chromosome. So 60% of men have one type of red cone cell, the rest have the other; while women could have either one of these variants or a mixture of the two. All three groups (of which one is female-only) have different perceptions of red. Trying to get people from different groups to work together in anything that involves matching colours can easily fall apart. I'm not aware of similar variants among blue or green cone cells; perhaps red only gets away with it because it's the underachiever of the visible spectrum. Morgan L. Owens "Natural lasers? Do your forests have some source of _natural_ laser lght?" _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 14:37:09 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA04480 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:37:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (smtp4.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04109 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:01:51 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveheu.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.69.222]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA15501 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990808140233.40b73256@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] Re: Auras (Was FOTD, etc.) Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 12:56 AM 8/7/99 -0500, Nature Leseul wrote: >I picked up a book on auras from Books-A-Million once and paged >through it enough to read the first few pages on the technique >for "seeing" auras. It's fairly simple; you have the subject >stand in front of a white surface, stare at the subject for >several seconds, and then shift your focus to the white surface. >You should see a sort of yellowish-grayish outline of the >subject slightly behind him/her. This technique producess after-images combined with a contrast effect. It has nothing at all to do with the dynamic and colorful human aura that the popular psychics claim to see. >It works with humans. It also works with inanimate objects. >I've never heard that inanimate objects have auras. The white-screen technique produces an "aura" around anything that contrasts with the light background. >Personally, I suspect that it's more something in the eye, >along the lines of the "spots" that one sees after looking at >the sun or any bright light. This is exactly what it is. I sometimes work on a light-table, which is great for producing these kinds of contrast and after- image effects around objects such as fingertips, but just as well around line-gauges and x-acto knives. >Although there is one thing I'd like to see an explanation for >along the subject of auras. . . . I saw a video in my Biology >class once that showed an image of a standard human's hands >with the electromagnetic field shown in blue light. It then >showed the same sort of image with the hands of a man in a deep >state of meditation. The field was hugely amplified to about 2 >or 3 times the intensity of the normal human. This is Kirlian photography -- a rather old technique that was developed in the Soviet Union in the 1930's. It creates some interesting electrostatic discharge effects, though hardly the colorful aura that some psychics claim to be able to see. Some of the claims fail when carefully investigated. Kirlian photography does not in any way prove the existence of the human aura of the occult traditions. If it did, the reality of the aura would no longer be in doubt. Nor is the aura due to an extension of the human vision into the infrared or ultraviolet ranges. Using special film and filters, I have photographed things, including people and landscapes, in infrared and ultraviolet light. I got some pretty weird looking images on film, but I saw no signs at all of an aura of invisible IR or UV light around the living people. Morgan Owens wrote: >I wonder if there may not be some other perceptual capabilities >that some people might have over those that don't. If they do, >of course, it's quite clear that they're practically useless. I suppose you feel that, if they were shown to exist, unusual perceptual capabilities such as telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, out-of-body travel, etc, which are occasionally reported, would be discarded as useless. ----------------------------------------------------------------- So the question remains unanswered -- what is this aura that exists in the occult and religious traditions? Were the ancients so uninformed and confused that they mistook after- images for a glowing, dynamic, halo of light that surrounds every living being? Were they so confused that they made the same mistake in so many different and disconnected cultures? Skeptics, who are convinced that the aura does not exist, have no trouble answering, "yes, it's all explained by after-images or some other mundane thing". But I'm not totally skeptical, and I wonder how the aura tradition got started. What was it that so many "saw", and some still claim to "see", that gave birth to the idea of a human aura? I've got my own somewhat unorthodox ideas about the aura, which will please neither the believer nor the skeptic. I'll offer my opinion as soon as I overcome my current doldrums, and find a way to connect the aura topic to the topic of fractals. FOTD in 12 hours. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 16:37:10 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05515 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:37:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA05160 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:55:36 -0500 Received: (qmail 10754 invoked by alias); 8 Aug 1999 19:53:32 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-philofractal@icd.com@fixme Received: (qmail 10746 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 1999 19:53:31 -0000 Received: from dialupg101.ptld.uswest.net (HELO bgose) (207.225.87.101) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 1999 19:53:31 -0000 Message-ID: <001801bee1d7$aaf73ae0$6557e1cf@bgose> From: "Brian Gose" To: Subject: [philofractal] My take on auras Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:53:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEE19C.FE08F420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEE19C.FE08F420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Afterimages definitely are not auras. So why try to say they are? = I'm no skeptic, but on the other hand, I don't just believe everything I = see or hear. But the persistence throughout history of the existence of = auras and other psychic abilities shows us one thing, that science has = neither proven OR disproven their existence. I personally lean towards = a believer. There's just ***way*** too much that we don't know about = the function of the brain. What exactly is the function of that 90% or = so of "unused" brain?? I don't know, do you?? Isn't is possible that = certain people are born with certain regions of their brain more = developed than others?? What kind of abilities would these people = have?? Possibly clairvoyance, telepathy, ESP, the ability to see auras, = etc. Here I'll draw a parallel to fractals. Before we developed = computers, fractals did exist, only we weren't aware of them. = Similarly, before we develop these parts of the brain, other senses of = perception *could* exist, but we are unaware of them. Has anyone ever read Rupert Sheldrake's theory of morphogenetic = fields? I'll quickly detail the experiment which lead to his theory. = He located two completely separate islands inhabited by monkeys. On = ONLY one of these islands he taught the monkeys to use a particular tool = who's use was unknown to both groups of monkeys. After all the monkeys = learned to use this tool on island one, the tool was introduced on = island two. The monkeys immediately and *without* teaching, **knew** = how to use this tool. How is this possible? =20 I guess that's enough from me for now. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEE19C.FE08F420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Afterimages definitely are not = auras. =20 So why try to say they are?  I'm no skeptic, but on the other hand, = I don't=20 just believe everything I see or hear.  But the persistence = throughout=20 history of the existence of auras and other psychic abilities shows us = one=20 thing, that science has neither proven OR disproven their = existence.  I=20 personally lean towards a believer.  There's just ***way*** too = much that=20 we don't know about the function of the brain.  What exactly is the = function of that 90% or so of "unused" brain??  I don't know, do = you??=20 Isn't is possible that certain people are born with certain regions of = their=20 brain more developed than others??  What kind of abilities would = these=20 people have??  Possibly clairvoyance, telepathy, ESP, the ability = to see=20 auras, etc.  Here I'll draw a parallel to fractals.  Before we = developed computers, fractals did exist, only we weren't aware of = them. =20 Similarly, before we develop these parts of the brain, other senses of=20 perception *could* exist, but we are unaware of them.
 
    Has anyone ever read Rupert = Sheldrake's=20 theory of morphogenetic fields?  I'll quickly detail the experiment = which=20 lead to his theory.   He located two completely separate = islands=20 inhabited by monkeys.  On ONLY one of these islands he taught the = monkeys=20 to use a particular tool who's use was unknown to both groups of = monkeys. =20 After all the monkeys learned to use this tool on island one, the tool = was=20 introduced on island two.  The monkeys immediately and *without* = teaching,=20 **knew** how to use this tool.  How is this possible?  =
 
I guess that's enough from me for now.
Brian
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BEE19C.FE08F420-- _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 21:37:29 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08287 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:37:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08033 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:05:10 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-51.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.181]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA31771 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:12:02 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990809124039.0085ab10@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:40:39 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] Re: Auras (Was FOTD, etc.) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19990808140233.40b73256@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 13:59 08/08/1999 -0400, Jim Muth wrote: > >Morgan Owens wrote: > >>I wonder if there may not be some other perceptual capabilities >>that some people might have over those that don't. If they do, >>of course, it's quite clear that they're practically useless. > >I suppose you feel that, if they were shown to exist, unusual >perceptual capabilities such as telepathy, clairvoyance, >precognition, out-of-body travel, etc, which are occasionally >reported, would be discarded as useless. > If humans had the capability to see some sort of aura, and if such a capability were to have practical benefit, then human evolution would have selected for it, and it would already be part of our normal sensory apparatus. Morgan L. Owens "Wendy! I can fly!" _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 21:37:30 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA08296 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:37:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08034 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:05:11 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-51.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.181]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA31775 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:12:03 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990809125932.0085c100@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:59:32 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] My take on auras In-Reply-To: <001801bee1d7$aaf73ae0$6557e1cf@bgose> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 12:53 08/08/1999 -0700, Brian Gose wrote: > > What exactly is the function of that 90% or so of "unused" >brain?? I don't know, do you?? > I suspect that it's involved in keeping us alive. Fully one-third of the cerebral cortex is devoted to visual processing (which is why much of AI research is in the "machine vision" field), and large swathes are involved in coordinating the firing of all the nerve fibres that connect the brain to muscles throughout the body - so that you don't contract the left biceps simultaneously with the left triceps, for example, or step forward with both feet at the same time when walking - and have you ever wondered how much processing has to go into turning the _intention_ to say something into the physical action of actually saying it? There's a lot going on in your brain that it never deigns to tell you. It's like a Macintosh. Because Homo sapiens is such an underspecialised organism, much more of its activity has to be done "in software" and learned, rather than "in firmware" - a dedicated processer can get away with being simpler and less powerful than a general-purpose machine that is called on to do the same job. And then there is neoteny. Humans never grow up, becoming sexually mature while still physically juvenile. This is why humans are so undeveloped compared with other primates, we retain many of the features of childhood well into so-called adulthood, such as our sense of play, our ability to learn, and our curiosity. All three of those qualities point to a brain has remained plastic and hasn't settled into the rut of maturity. Curiously, many pets continue to display some of the same qualities even into adulthood, especially if they have been raised from birth. So there is some environmental influence here. But it's still the saddest sight I've ever seen; a young chimpanzee growing up. You can watch the light go out of its eyes. Morgan L. Owens "Everything is just what you would have expected. Don't worry about the messy details." _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Sun Aug 8 23:39:45 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA09240 for philofractal-list; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:37:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from mailhost1.attcanada.net (mailhost1.attcanada.net [206.191.82.42]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA09035 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:13:45 -0500 Received: from d26-xv101h2-vanc-pdi.attcanada.net ([142.194.60.26]) by mailhost1.attcanada.net (InterMail v03.02.07.03 118-128) with ESMTP id <19990809030158.GNU3091@d26-xv101h2-vanc-pdi.attcanada.net> for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:01:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:11:43 -0700 From: John Wilson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.34a) S/N 78C6BBA8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4841.990808@attcanada.net> To: philofractal@icd.com Subject: [philofractal] Re: (2) Auras (Was FOTD, etc.) In-reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19990808140233.40b73256@pop.mindspring.com> References: <1.5.4.16.19990808140233.40b73256@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com Sunday, August 08, 1999, 10:59:36 AM, Jim wrote: JM> So the question remains unanswered -- what is this aura that JM> exists in the occult and religious traditions? Were the JM> ancients so uninformed and confused that they mistook after- JM> images for a glowing, dynamic, halo of light that surrounds JM> every living being? Were they so confused that they made the JM> same mistake in so many different and disconnected cultures? Well distinct cultures also have tales of fairies, djins, elves and goblins. Dragons and Sybils, unicorns and Sirens, mermaids and leprechauns, etc, etc. I don't believe the ancients were uniformed, they were merely overly fond of psychoactive foods and drinks, (and a good tale). Also, tape recorders and cameras were not around; they have spoiled the whole field. JM> Skeptics, who are convinced that the aura does not exist, have JM> no trouble answering, "yes, it's all explained by after-images JM> or some other mundane thing". But I'm not totally skeptical, JM> and I wonder how the aura tradition got started. What was it JM> that so many "saw", and some still claim to "see", that gave JM> birth to the idea of a human aura? Gee, am I the only one who mis-spent part of his youth imbibing a beer or two too many? John W. mailto:johnw1@attcanada.net _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Mon Aug 9 01:39:11 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA10295 for philofractal-list; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:37:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (smtp5.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA09912; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:40:36 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2ivegju.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.66.126]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA01182; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990809004051.3357b624@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 09-08-99 (Mandelbrot Surprise) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 09, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: I must apologize for today's fractal, which casts artistic merit out the window in favor of sensationalism, and causes the viewer to perform work if he hopes to see the surprise. On the surface, the image resembles a Julia set of a point on a Mandelbrot filament. And indeed it is -- almost. In fact, it is not quite a Julia set. If it were a true Julia set, the fractal would be symmetrical around the origin, which it clearly is not. But it is within 1-1/2 degrees of being a Julia set. That small double-rotation from the Julia direction makes a world of difference. Baby Mandelbrots never appear in Julia sets. For mathematical reasons beyond the scope of this discussion, (meaning I'm not sure of the reasons), a Mandelbrot in a Julia set is impossible. But Mandelbrot midgets appear in directions very close to the Julia. Two maximum zooms into the center of today's image will reveal one of the closest Mandelbrots to the Julia direction I have yet found. What a paradox -- a Minibrot in a Julia set. But wait, it is not a true Julia set, and the Minibrot hiding at the center is not quite perfect, so it is only an apparent paradox, and the laws of mathematics remain unbroken. I named the picture drawn by the parameter file "Mandelbrot Surprise", even though the real surprise doesn't appear until the viewer does the two inzooms that are necessary to reveal it. Don't worry about the time involved. The images render in under 10 seconds. The almost-Julia set has been posted to: and to: though in this case running the parameter file will be the faster way to see the surprise. The weather today here at Fractal Central was warm and muggy, with a heavy thunder-shower in the afternoon. But the rain, which measured about 1cm, was localized, and did nothing to relieve the drought. However, the temperature of 84F, (29C) was great for fractals. Unfortunately, due to that job that went sour a few days ago, my philosophical mood is still not where it should be. But it's improving, and at the present rate, things will be back to normal in a day or two. Until next time, take care, and stand by your fractal. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== multirot-XY-ZW {; draws 6 planes and many rotations ;when fn1-2=i,f, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=O, 90,0=E, 90,90=J ;when fn1-2=f,i, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=R, 90,0=P, 90,90=J a=real(p1)*.01745329251994, b=imag(p1)*.01745329251994, z=sin(b)*fn1(real(pixel))+sin(a)*fn2(imag(pixel))+p2, c=cos(b)*real(pixel)+cos(a)*flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=sqr(z)+c, |z| <= 36 } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= MandelbrotSurprise { ; t=0:00:02.19 on a p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=multirot.frm formulaname=multirot-XY-ZW function=flip/ident center-mag=2.57079e-005/-0.000109829/0.7450282/1/-115 params=88.5/88.5/0/0/0.347360651/0.701556914 float=y maxiter=2500 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000UUGJ3DN9L<2>eOg<2>QomLsoOvg<4>ao6<6>uw_tvc\ pv_<6>AnD<4>ZBeXBbId4Dp0HsJKvaemsog_yRGrKNmEUg8`c2gY\ 4bL6Z<4>HFE<3>bqIFYs<4>ouU<6>O6tJLuFZv<2>_LyfGzmCzt7\ zz3z<5>Tlz5vz<4>fQz<4>4iz<5>YNzbKzfIz<4>xDz<5>7bzHNz\ <3>JGzVmz<4>P_zOXzNVzLTz<4>DOz3dzsAz<7>gwzB5z<2>qNz\ <3>z1z<5>gozOQz41z<4>vLzDTz<3>GLzGJzFNzEQzDTzh1z<3>H\ Qz<6>KFzKEzJIz<5>Fdz<5>elz<2>D6z<2>oWz<5>0Iz<4>8Cz9B\ z9Dz<2>9Hz<4>YXzSoz<6>MVzMTzKXz<2>Gez<3>BEz<5>45zetz\ htz } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ MandelbrotSurprise { ; t=0:00:02.19 on a p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=multirot.frm formulaname=multirot-XY-ZW function=flip/ident center-mag=2.57079e-005/-0.000109829/0.7450282/1/-115 params=88.5/88.5/0/0/0.347360651/0.701556914 float=y maxiter=2500 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=yes symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000UUGJ3DN9L<2>eOg<2>QomLsoOvg<4>ao6<6>uw_tvc\ pv_<6>AnD<4>ZBeXBbId4Dp0HsJKvaemsog_yRGrKNmEUg8`c2gY\ 4bL6Z<4>HFE<3>bqIFYs<4>ouU<6>O6tJLuFZv<2>_LyfGzmCzt7\ zz3z<5>Tlz5vz<4>fQz<4>4iz<5>YNzbKzfIz<4>xDz<5>7bzHNz\ <3>JGzVmz<4>P_zOXzNVzLTz<4>DOz3dzsAz<7>gwzB5z<2>qNz\ <3>z1z<5>gozOQz41z<4>vLzDTz<3>GLzGJzFNzEQzDTzh1z<3>H\ Qz<6>KFzKEzJIz<5>Fdz<5>elz<2>D6z<2>oWz<5>0Iz<4>8Cz9B\ z9Dz<2>9Hz<4>YXzSoz<6>MVzMTzKXz<2>Gez<3>BEz<5>45zetz\ htz } frm:multirot-XY-ZW {; draws 6 planes and many rotations ;when fn1-2=i,f, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=O, 90,0=E, 90,90=J ;when fn1-2=f,i, then p1 0,0=M, 0,90=R, 90,0=P, 90,90=J a=real(p1)*.01745329251994, b=imag(p1)*.01745329251994, z=sin(b)*fn1(real(pixel))+sin(a)*fn2(imag(pixel))+p2, c=cos(b)*real(pixel)+cos(a)*flip(imag(pixel))+p3: z=sqr(z)+c, |z| <= 36 } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Mon Aug 9 09:37:20 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13156 for philofractal-list; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:37:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from ns.krauch.com.py ([207.124.222.123]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA12914 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:03:10 -0500 Received: from Diosnel (router.krauch.com.py [207.124.222.122]) by ns.krauch.com.py (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA06080 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <00cd01bee247$6c31a1e0$7901010a@krauch.com.py> From: "Diosnel Herrnsdorf" To: References: <1.5.4.16.19990808140233.40b73256@pop.mindspring.com> <4841.990808@attcanada.net> Subject: RE: [philofractal] Re: (2) Auras (Was FOTD, etc.) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:13:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com > Gee, am I the only one who mis-spent part of his youth imbibing a > beer or two too many? > > John W. mailto:johnw1@attcanada.net No, you aren't. I still remember spending nights serenading, playing the guitar and drinking too many beers. However, sometimes I wonder what would have happened if, instead of learning how to drink a lot without getting drunk, I spent my time learning some other stuff (like math)? Just a thought. Regards, Diosnel _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Mon Aug 9 11:37:08 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14217 for philofractal-list; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:37:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from cluster1.vsnl.net.in (cluster1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.66]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14053 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:24:33 -0500 Received: from c (PPP114-201.bom.vsnl.net.in [202.54.114.201]) by cluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18837 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:53:46 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <000201bee216$4d2b6500$b87236ca@c> From: "Abhishek Roy" To: "Philofractal" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:13:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEE21D.81288D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEE21D.81288D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Has anyone ever read Rupert Sheldrake's theory of morphogenetic fields? = I'll quickly detail the >experiment which lead to his theory. He = located two completely separate islands inhabited by >monkeys. On ONLY = one of these islands he taught the monkeys to use a particular tool = who's >use was unknown to both groups of monkeys. After all the monkeys = learned to use this tool on >island one, the tool was introduced on = island two. The monkeys immediately and *without* >teaching, **knew** = how to use this tool. How is this possible? =20 This is certainly very interesting. Pardon my ignorance, but I = had never heard of this experiment. Is any more information available on = the net. Kirlian photography does surface from time to time in a new = avatar, but if I'm not mistaken the number of believers has dwindled = steadily. = Abhishek Roy = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEE21D.81288D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>Has anyone ever read Rupert Sheldrake's theory = of=20 morphogenetic fields?  I'll quickly detail the >experiment which = lead to=20 his theory.   He located two completely separate islands = inhabited by=20 >monkeys.  On ONLY one of these islands he taught the monkeys to = use a=20 particular tool who's >use was unknown to both groups of = monkeys.  After=20 all the monkeys learned to use this tool on >island one, the tool was = introduced on island two.  The monkeys immediately and *without*=20 >teaching, **knew** how to use this tool.  How is this = possible? =20
 
        This is certainly very = interesting.=20 Pardon my ignorance, but I had never heard of this experiment. Is any = more=20 information available on the net.
         Kirlian = photography does=20 surface from time to time in a new avatar, but if I'm not mistaken = the=20 number of believers has dwindled steadily.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BEE21D.81288D40-- _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 01:37:24 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA22572 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:38:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA22061; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:44:17 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveg1a.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.64.42]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA17245; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990810004441.3357d098@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 10-08-99 (Pickled Minibrot) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 10, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: It was another in a string of those irritating days that seem to come in clusters. When I started one of my computers this morning, I heard a double beep and saw the message "controller failure" appear on the screen. Luckily, after three more attempts, the machine started up normally, and ran perfectly all day. But I fear I will soon have a hard drive to replace. But regardless, the fractals will continue. Today's moderate quality offering proves my point. When a bit of Z^3 is subtracted from Z^2, and a critical plane calculated, a rather standard M-set results, but with one big difference -- not only does the M-set have a negative tail on the X-axis, it also has a positive tail. The positive tail extends straight out from East Valley, and is filled with unique midgets, much as is the negative tail. The midget in today's picture lies deep in the center of the East Valley area of its parent fractal -- an area that is totally featureless in the classic M-set. I named the picture "Pickled Minibrot" when I noticed the pickle-like colors of the outer features. I was also thinking of the pickle I would be in if that shaky computer went dead. Unlike yesterday's almost instant image, today's image requires almost 1/4 hour on a fast Pentium. Downloading the completed image file from: or from: is most sincerely recommended. The weather today was surprisingly cool and crisp, with that deep blue sky that makes one glad to be alive. The high temperature of 82F (28C) was perfect for finding those elusive fractals. It also would have been perfect for philosophy, had I not gotten irritated by the malfunctioning computer. But I'll try again tomorrow, and one of these days I'll actually have something worthwhile to say. Until then, take care, and where does the light come from when, in a totally dark room, we dream of a sunlit scene? Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END FORMULA================================================ START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Pickled_Minibrot { ; t=0:13:23.32 on a p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=jim.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+1.520491411423476/+0.000085094471912/6.25\ 9271e+008/1/-42.499 params=-1.1/2/-0.2/3/0/0 float=y maxiter=2400 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=312 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000L4UL4T<2>UP`QWbKZeMad<4>TWEUV9XUA<4>jRE<13>\ ICOF6R<5>GXCG`AGf7Gk5Ip2Gm3<9>204<3>XcR_v_<4>sDK<15>Z\ mRhr`rwj<5>fmbioaela<3>QGa2DoN8ae1R<7>pHBqJ9uL9<11>QK\ 1OK1NT7M`DUiD<2>8fQ6eX4dc0hp<3>6VU7MO1CI8MJHXF<2>8bP\ <11>eRj<15>I3W<7>cu1<6>Xp0ze0zd0zd0QX1L_2<3>176UABuDG\ rESoFcnBs<6>`bOYlJ<5>c7Kc0Kb2L<12>_IWXEY<7>urH<12>tof\ yue<2>jdke4W } END PARAMETER FILE========================================= START 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Pickled_Minibrot { ; t=0:13:23.32 on a p233, 640x480 reset=1960 type=formula formulafile=jim.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=ident passes=1 center-mag=+1.520491411423476/+0.000085094471912/6.25\ 9271e+008/1/-42.499 params=-1.1/2/-0.2/3/0/0 float=y maxiter=2400 bailout=25 inside=0 logmap=312 symmetry=xaxis periodicity=10 colors=000L4UL4T<2>UP`QWbKZeMad<4>TWEUV9XUA<4>jRE<13>\ ICOF6R<5>GXCG`AGf7Gk5Ip2Gm3<9>204<3>XcR_v_<4>sDK<15>Z\ mRhr`rwj<5>fmbioaela<3>QGa2DoN8ae1R<7>pHBqJ9uL9<11>QK\ 1OK1NT7M`DUiD<2>8fQ6eX4dc0hp<3>6VU7MO1CI8MJHXF<2>8bP\ <11>eRj<15>I3W<7>cu1<6>Xp0ze0zd0zd0QX1L_2<3>176UABuDG\ rESoFcnBs<6>`bOYlJ<5>c7Kc0Kb2L<12>_IWXEY<7>urH<12>tof\ yue<2>jdke4W } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 19.6 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 06:38:57 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA24465 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:37:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.2]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA24231 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:54:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 18118 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 09:52:09 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-philofractal@icd.com@fixme Received: (qmail 18073 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 1999 09:52:06 -0000 Received: from dialupm188.ptld.uswest.net (HELO bgose) (216.161.82.188) by ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 09:52:06 -0000 Message-ID: <001101bee315$fbd7e100$bc52a1d8@bgose> From: "Brian Gose" To: References: <3.0.3.32.19990809125932.0085c100@mail.nznet.gen.nz> Subject: Re: [philofractal] My take on auras Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 02:51:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com > There's a lot going on in your brain that it never deigns to tell you. It's > like a Macintosh. > Can I use this as a personal quote?? I find it incredibly funny. =) Brian _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 06:38:57 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA24469 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:37:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.2]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA24322 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:10:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 21883 invoked by alias); 10 Aug 1999 10:07:39 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-philofractal@icd.com@fixme Received: (qmail 21876 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 1999 10:07:37 -0000 Received: from dialupm188.ptld.uswest.net (HELO bgose) (216.161.82.188) by ptldpop2.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 10:07:37 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01bee318$26b88620$bc52a1d8@bgose> From: "Brian Gose" To: References: <000201bee216$4d2b6500$b87236ca@c> Subject: [philofractal] Re: Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:07:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEE2DD.79A10C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEE2DD.79A10C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I did manage to find this, I didn't look to hard, just a quick stop = at HotBot using the keywords morphogenetic and Rupert Sheldrake. The = first is a description of the 'hundredth monkey principle' I have to = admit that a little research taught me I was slightly incorrect in my = statement. There was never an *actual* experiment, but again, the first = link is what I was referring to. The others have some good stuff, let = me know what you think... Brian http://www.hootenanny.com/hoot/3/sheldrake.html http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC12/Sheldrak.htm http://www.sheldrake.org/intro/ http://www.transaction.net/science/seven/index.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Abhishek Roy=20 To: Philofractal=20 Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 3:43 PM >Has anyone ever read Rupert Sheldrake's theory of morphogenetic = fields? I'll quickly detail the >experiment which lead to his theory. = He located two completely separate islands inhabited by >monkeys. On = ONLY one of these islands he taught the monkeys to use a particular tool = who's >use was unknown to both groups of monkeys. After all the monkeys = learned to use this tool on >island one, the tool was introduced on = island two. The monkeys immediately and *without* >teaching, **knew** = how to use this tool. How is this possible? =20 This is certainly very interesting. Pardon my ignorance, but I = had never heard of this experiment. Is any more information available on = the net.Abhishek Roy =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEE2DD.79A10C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
   I did manage to find this, I didn't = look to hard,=20 just a quick stop at HotBot using the keywords morphogenetic and Rupert=20 Sheldrake.  The first is a description of the 'hundredth monkey=20 principle'  I have to admit that a little research taught me I was = slightly=20 incorrect in my statement.  There was never an *actual* experiment, = but=20 again, the first link is what I was referring to.  The others have = some=20 good stuff, let me know what you think...
 
Brian
 
http://www.hoote= nanny.com/hoot/3/sheldrake.html
 
http://www.contex= t.org/ICLIB/IC12/Sheldrak.htm
 
http://www.sheldrake.org/intro/<= /A>
 
http://www.t= ransaction.net/science/seven/index.html
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Abhishek=20 Roy
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 = 3:43=20 PM

>Has anyone ever read Rupert Sheldrake's theory = of=20 morphogenetic fields?  I'll quickly detail the >experiment = which lead=20 to his theory.   He located two completely separate islands=20 inhabited by >monkeys.  On ONLY one of these islands he taught = the=20 monkeys to use a particular tool who's >use was unknown to both = groups of=20 monkeys.  After all the monkeys learned to use this tool on = >island=20 one, the tool was introduced on island two.  The monkeys = immediately and=20 *without* >teaching, **knew** how to use this tool.  How is = this=20 possible? =20
 
        This is certainly very = interesting.=20 Pardon my ignorance, but I had never heard of this experiment. Is any = more=20 information available on the=20 net.Abhishek Roy     
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEE2DD.79A10C80-- _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 14:37:14 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA28498 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:37:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28262 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:09:01 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveg1t.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.64.61]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28159 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990810140913.32f735ec@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] Re: Auras Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com on Sunday, August 08, 1999, at 10:59 AM, John Wilson wrote: >Distinct cultures also have tales of fairies, djins, elves and >goblins, Dragons and Sybils, unicorns and Sirens, mermaids and >leprechauns, etc, etc. I don't believe the ancients were >uninformed, they were merely overly fond of psychoactive foods >and drinks, (and a good tale). Also, tape recorders and cameras >were not around; they have spoiled the whole field. John has just given the standard rational, common-sense explanation of the fact that people throughout history have reported the human aura, as well as a vast multitude of supernatural beings and events. Basically, the rational explanation is that the things which people have reported have existed only in their deluded minds. It follows as a corollary that the things they reported were not real. The reference to sound recorders and cameras points out the fact that such supernatural things as fairies and auras cannot be sound- recorded or photographed by scientific means, which is supposed to prove that such things are not real. But claiming that the supernatural exists "only in the mind", as rationalists do, is admitting that, although it is unreal, it does in fact exist. So rationalists must next explain the meaning of "only in the mind". This is where reductionism becomes so useful. Rationalists take fairies, dragons, and all the other supernatural things of history, including the human aura, and reduce them to a state of the physical brain. Then they claim that they have explained the supernatural -- namely that it does exist, but like a dream, it is only a state of the brain. This is where I get lost. I can follow the logic to the point where I see the supernatural, including the aura, as existing only in the mind, (or brain if that word seems more appropriate), but I fail to see how mere chemical and electrical activity in a pound or so of grey mush can equal or create an entire world, such as we experience when we dream. And if this is admitted to be the case, how can we be certain that the brain, (or mind), is not creating the so-called real world we experience while awake? After all, fractals are basically an invention of the human mind. Many primitive cultures assume that when a person is dreaming, that person becomes aware of a different level of reality and travels about, having experiences in that new reality, using a dream body which sometimes takes the form of animals, etc. This is a simple, intuitive interpretation of dreams, easy to understand, and backed up by experience. (If one considers the dream world to be real, then it is real.) Rational science says that when a person is dreaming, that person's brain is undergoing electro-chemical activity of the neurons, which in some mysterious way creates the subjective experience of bizarre adventures in another world. This is a reductionist approach, unintuitive, impossible to demonstrate or even understand, and requiring a dose of very un-rational faith to accept. (Even though the dream world appears real, it is not real. Only the equally-real-appearing real world is real.) Which interpretation is correct -- the primitive, the scientific, both, or neither? Or is the question meaningless? This will be the topic of my next venture into controversial philosophy, which will appear in the near future on this same list, and which will be shown to have a connection to fractals. (And I have absolutely no scientific proof of my statements.) FOTD in 12 hours. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 15:39:13 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA29196 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:37:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from fep1.post.tele.dk (fep1.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.133]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29093 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:30:27 -0500 Received: from default ([195.249.211.124]) by fep1.post.tele.dk (InterMail v4.0 201-221) with SMTP id <19990810192732.DOGZ8624.fep1@default> for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:27:32 +0200 From: "Maria Kjaergaard or Joergen Lemming" To: Subject: Sv: [philofractal] Re: Auras Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: <01bee364$8092ed60$7cd3f9c3@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rock.icd.com id OAA29094 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com I'm looking forward to the follow-up on this - I really think you're on to something! As a hopelessly confused daughter of a strictly logic, educated philosopher-mother and a rather confused sometimes-believing-and-sometimes-not father (rest their souls...) I find this very interesting (try to imagine how confused I am with those parents :-). All the best Maria -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Jim Muth Til: philofractal@icd.com Dato: 10. august 1999 20:40 Emne: [philofractal] Re: Auras >on Sunday, August 08, 1999, at 10:59 AM, John Wilson wrote: > >>Distinct cultures also have tales of fairies, djins, elves and >>goblins, Dragons and Sybils, unicorns and Sirens, mermaids and >>leprechauns, etc, etc. I don't believe the ancients were >>uninformed, they were merely overly fond of psychoactive foods >>and drinks, (and a good tale). Also, tape recorders and cameras >>were not around; they have spoiled the whole field. > >John has just given the standard rational, common-sense >explanation of the fact that people throughout history have >reported the human aura, as well as a vast multitude of >supernatural beings and events. Basically, the rational >explanation is that the things which people have reported have >existed only in their deluded minds. It follows as a corollary >that the things they reported were not real. The reference to >sound recorders and cameras points out the fact that such >supernatural things as fairies and auras cannot be sound- >recorded or photographed by scientific means, which is supposed >to prove that such things are not real. > >But claiming that the supernatural exists "only in the mind", as >rationalists do, is admitting that, although it is unreal, it >does in fact exist. So rationalists must next explain the >meaning of "only in the mind". This is where reductionism >becomes so useful. Rationalists take fairies, dragons, and all >the other supernatural things of history, including the human >aura, and reduce them to a state of the physical brain. Then >they claim that they have explained the supernatural -- namely >that it does exist, but like a dream, it is only a state of the >brain. > >This is where I get lost. I can follow the logic to the point >where I see the supernatural, including the aura, as existing >only in the mind, (or brain if that word seems more >appropriate), but I fail to see how mere chemical and electrical >activity in a pound or so of grey mush can equal or create an >entire world, such as we experience when we dream. And if this >is admitted to be the case, how can we be certain that the >brain, (or mind), is not creating the so-called real world we >experience while awake? After all, fractals are basically an >invention of the human mind. > >Many primitive cultures assume that when a person is dreaming, >that person becomes aware of a different level of reality and >travels about, having experiences in that new reality, using a >dream body which sometimes takes the form of animals, etc. This >is a simple, intuitive interpretation of dreams, easy to >understand, and backed up by experience. (If one considers the >dream world to be real, then it is real.) > >Rational science says that when a person is dreaming, that >person's brain is undergoing electro-chemical activity of the >neurons, which in some mysterious way creates the subjective >experience of bizarre adventures in another world. This is a >reductionist approach, unintuitive, impossible to demonstrate or >even understand, and requiring a dose of very un-rational faith >to accept. (Even though the dream world appears real, it is not >real. Only the equally-real-appearing real world is real.) > >Which interpretation is correct -- the primitive, the >scientific, both, or neither? Or is the question meaningless? >This will be the topic of my next venture into controversial >philosophy, which will appear in the near future on this same >list, and which will be shown to have a connection to fractals. > >(And I have absolutely no scientific proof of my statements.) > >FOTD in 12 hours. > > >Jim Muth >jamth@mindspring.com > >_______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ >post: send message to philofractal@icd.com >unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com >admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 20:37:35 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA32281 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:37:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA32068 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:13:00 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-22.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.152]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30677 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:19:11 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990811115040.00864cb0@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:50:40 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] My take on auras In-Reply-To: <001101bee315$fbd7e100$bc52a1d8@bgose> References: <3.0.3.32.19990809125932.0085c100@mail.nznet.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 02:51 10/08/1999 -0700, you wrote: >> There's a lot going on in your brain that it never deigns to tell you. >It's >> like a Macintosh. >> > >Can I use this as a personal quote?? I find it incredibly funny. =) > >Brian > Go ahead :-) Morgan L. Owens "I want to open it in Netscape! Not BBEdit!" _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 20:37:36 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA32285 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:37:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from bo.nznet.gen.nz (ns1.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.34]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA32073 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:13:07 -0500 Received: from packrat.nznet.gen.nz (ms2-22.nznet.gen.nz [203.167.232.152]) by bo.nznet.gen.nz (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30683 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:19:15 +1200 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990811120523.00868100@mail.nznet.gen.nz> X-Sender: packrat@mail.nznet.gen.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:05:23 +1200 To: philofractal@icd.com From: "Morgan L. Owens" Subject: Re: [philofractal] Re: Auras In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19990810140913.32f735ec@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com At 14:06 10/08/1999 -0400, Jim Muth wrote: > After all, fractals are basically an >invention of the human mind. > Doesn't mean to say they didn't exist beforehand, though. Complex arithmetic was invented (grudgingly) in attempts to solve polynomial equations centuries before it was discovered to be the best technique for dealing with quantum mechanics (indeed, centuries before quantum mechanics was discovered.) After all, who invented the electric motor? Morgan L. Owens "It is not the shrines of the gods nor the powers of the air that send the dreams which mock the mind with flitting shadows; man makes his own dreams." _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Tue Aug 10 23:37:15 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA01072 for philofractal-list; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:37:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00563 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:40:28 -0500 Received: from default (user-38ldi90.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.201.32]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00434 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason Hine" To: Subject: Re: [philofractal] Re: Auras Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: <01bee3a2$678921c0$20c956d1@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com JAM wrote: >Rational science says that when a person is dreaming, that >person's brain is undergoing electro-chemical activity of the >neurons, which in some mysterious way creates the subjective >experience of bizarre adventures in another world. This is a >reductionist approach, unintuitive, impossible to demonstrate or >even understand, and requiring a dose of very un-rational faith >to accept. (Even though the dream world appears real, it is not >real. Only the equally-real-appearing real world is real.) > >Which interpretation is correct -- the primitive, the >scientific, both, or neither? Or is the question meaningless? >This will be the topic of my next venture into controversial >philosophy, which will appear in the near future on this same >list, and which will be shown to have a connection to fractals. > >(And I have absolutely no scientific proof of my statements.) I recently had what was, for me, undeniable proof of the ability of the mind to trancend time (though not necessarily as a conscious effort). I was in a location I had never been before (just happened to be a Benedictine monastery), speaking with two people, one of whom I had met only a month earlier, and the other of whom I had met mere hours ago. As we talked in the yard after dinner, I experienced about five seconds of pure deja' vu. This has happened to me before; it seems like the experiences are an average of four or five years apart. What made this instance remarkable, however, was that I was able to recall where I was when I saw those five seconds the first time - I had been talking with a friend some 3000 miles and four years distant. My friend had been speaking to me and I had "zoned out" very briefly (~5sec), during which time I had a vivid yet totally unrelated scene - the scene that would become reality four years later on the other side of the continent - run through my head. It was such a bizarre and vivid waking dream that I remember mentioning it to my friend. He was unimpressed. Make of this what you will, and I stand by my word, but of course: >(And I have absolutely no scientific proof of my statements.) Jason Hine _______ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ post: send message to philofractal@icd.com unsub: send "unsubscribe" to philofractal-request@icd.com admin: send comments to philofractal-owner@icd.com From owner-philofractal@icd.com Wed Aug 11 01:37:15 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02093 for philofractal-list; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:37:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rock.icd.com: majordomo set sender to owner-philofractal@icd.com using -f Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by rock.icd.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA01615; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:38:49 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (user-2iveh92.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.69.34]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA18131; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990811003854.3317b400@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: jamth@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: philofractal@icd.com From: Jim Muth Subject: [philofractal] FOTD 11-08-99 (Zodiac) (c) Cc: fractal-art@icd.com Sender: owner-philofractal@icd.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: philofractal@icd.com FOTD -- August 11, 1999 Fractal enthusiasts and visionaries: I named today's fractal picture "Zodiac" not because of its appearance, but rather because I was wishing that I could be somewhere along the path of the solar eclipse. But the eclipse is in Europe and Asia, and I'm stuck here on the East coast of North America. Curiously enough though, if the path of totality were extended beyond the sunrise line, it would cross Maryland. As it is, we will see 20 percent of the sun obscured at sunrise. But alas, we will not even see that tiny event, for it will be overcast at sunrise. While I'm bemoaning our bad luck, I'll remind the fractal fans of the world that today's fractal is not a bad one. The midget is part of the fractal that results when a large amount of Z is subtracted from a little Z^100 and the difference multiplied by a factor of 0.0103. The parameter file is slow, so downloading the image file is strongly recommended. The image file can be found posted to: and to: The always unimportant weather was partly cloudy and quite a bit warmer. The midday temperature of 88F (31C) was perfect for fractals of all ages, both liberal and conservative. And don't ask what a liberal fractal is. If you're not totally confused by this time, check here again next time, which will be in 24 hours plus or minus 1-1/2 hours. You'll be totally and absolutely confused if you do. Until then, take care of your pet fractal, and if you have no pet fractal, get one immediately. They work wonders for high blood pressure. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START FORMULA============================================== MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c,